What goes up…

Proper butting of the ladder is very important. There are many different acceptable methods out there. I was recently sent this video of a method I was unfamiliar with. I believe its call the “screw your buddy” method. I’m not sure where this video came from, but it sure is funny.

Now I know why most truck guys prefer one-man ladder operations.-Jimm-

 

26 thoughts on “What goes up…

  1. Mia says:

    I would call it the “I own you ass now” method or the “you had better be looking for a new job” method. That person would never end up on my crew again.

  2. D says:

    Start a helicopter soembody is going to need it just as soon as I get up.

  3. DC says:

    This is a classic example of why I like the “butt man” to do his job from the front of the ladder with his foot or feet on the ladder heels to keep it from kicking out. This guy obviously thought his partner was on the roof already. Hey Mia, I like the “I own your ass now” method!

  4. EngCo.10 Chauffer says:

    That guy would have a size ten bunker boot shoved so far up his ass he’d taste the leather…

  5. Tony LCFR Sq72 says:

    It looks as if the angle is incorrect along with the fact that his partner is not paying attention. This guy fell hard. I like how he’s on the ground and tries to give his partner a smack right before the video ends…

  6. Dave says:

    OUCH!! “Someone get one of them incident forms!” Classic case of not paying attention. Also, check out the ground the ladder was on. Might be better off finding another area to ladder or as DC said, heel it from the front of the ladder. If this were a one person ladder op, he would have been on the ground on the third step up instead of the top!

  7. SMG72 says:

    Just goes to show, that laziness has no place on the fireground. Yet another example of a member being in to much of a hurry to do their job right.

  8. Gabe Orange County says:

    One word….complacency. Its a killer! Or, atleast in this case injury. What if this had been a large building and that fall was 20 or more feet. All “beat his ass” remarks aside, this is why we still need to train “throwing ladders”.

  9. 52capt. says:

    Hard to depend on a guy to back me up in a building when he has problems getting me to the roof. Never leave your wingman while in battle. Hope the injury is minor,and a lesson was learned.

  10. 52capt. says:

    Be safe out there. We didn’t start the fire, lets not hurt each other putting it out.

  11. Darrell says:

    Gents,

    This particular video portrays a classic example of why we need interpersonal communication skills on the forefront. I think we all can agree that communication plays a significant role in our everyday lives. So, why do we continue to neglect its essential benefits? Maybe we’re afraid to acknowledge the fact that we can speak and recognize the privileges we possess from the freedom of speech – Candidates. Or are we trying to perfect our own abilities of telepathy. Hey, I must admit that my mind reading techniques and skills are terrible. I have been trying to read the minds of others for years and have succumbed to no avail – even my significant other (I hope she doesn’t read this one).

    Well, any of these circumstances has the potential to be disastrous within the realm of our lives and fire ground duties; however, we still neglect the simple cognizant properties of our subconscious minds – communications!

    Throughout the years, I inadvertently educated myself on the art of nonverbal communications. First, I realized how quickly an individual couldn’t make any friends by choosing not converse with others. Secondly, I’ve learned that an individual could acquire many friends, in recorded breaking time, by simply performing a stern gesture of one’s particular digit stemming from the middle of their hands; I don’t recommend using that international form of communication. Nevertheless, it’s still a form of communication. So, why don’t we consider nonverbal communications during our tactical operations to avoid these potential injury instances?

    Here’s a little tip that we’ve found to be very useful during our typical ground ladder operations within environments that don’t always allow us to verbally communicate adequately. We utilize a nonverbal technique of communication by moving the ladder tip abruptly from side to side and then briefly outward from the building. The procedure occurs once we step onto the roof and off the ladder. This allows the heel man to distinguish between personnel climbing and exiting the ladder. In fact, most of our colleagues were able perfect this technique flawlessly and concur that this innovative technique does provide a significant form of understanding to prevent these injury circumstances from occurring.

    Now, I’m not saying this is an excellent technique to mimic, but feel free to try it. Also, I would advocate that you consider in collaborating your own particular nonverbal style of communication within your company. Therefore, be creative and practice communicating in the realms of nonverbal communication and verbal too; however, I would stoutly suggest that you avoid presenting the single – middle digit on your hand method.

    Stay safe out there!

  12. Lt. Miller T-112 LCFR says:

    It hard to tell, but it looks like the butt man catches the ladder with his SCBA bottle.(look close) It is still no excuse, he should not have walked away until he was sure the mann was off the ladder.

  13. SPH says:

    All it takes is feeling the weight difference on the ladder or (although we teach not to) a quick glance up to see where they are at. If another person is standing near you simply ask “Hey, is he/she off the ladder yet?” It’s as simple as that. Put yourself in another persons place before you make a decision sometimes. One bonehead move could cost someone their career or life…

  14. Lt. Matthews L-9 NFR says:

    WOW, this goes against all of what we are taught, there must have been a chief needing to get out of his buggy, that is where the “butt” man was going to in such a hurry. Again needless paperwork for accidents like this, that is why they call them accidents, they are preventable.

  15. Vent Master says:

    Where are the infamous ” Words of Wisdom ” from Jeff Ponds? If anyone knows the whereabouts of Mr. Ponds, please have him spread his words of wisdom….

  16. jeff A.K.A VentMaster says:

    LOL Funny you should ask I am working on some articles right now that should include some great information as well as spark some lively conversations. Until then everyone stay safe and have a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New year.JP

  17. Darrell says:

    (Bowing) – The infamous “Ventmaster” has spoken. May we cherish his revelations!(Smiling)- JP, who loves you brother?

    Happy Holidays to all…

  18. Darrell says:

    (Laughing)- Oh! By the way…Who let F- Bomb on the site?

  19. G. Rauch says:

    I agree with the rest of the posts here. That guy would be the next trip to the trauma center. The crew on our truck do not butt the ladder from underneath. For 1 you never turn back to structure so you can always see what its doing and 2 the most important thing is that you can keep an eye on your brothers. STAY SAFE.

  20. cfdtruckie says:

    the guy would never be allowed back on my truck…he should have been focused on his Brother – PERIOD!!! As already stated…COMPLACENCY KILLS.

  21. Jeff M says:

    Ground ladders on wet concrete do not mix!

    This guy must have been reassigned from the Engine!

  22. Chicago FD Truckie says:

    OH FUCK!!! That gets a Darwin Award

  23. Campbell says:

    haha, i agree with the above 2 posts. and i would say they needed to re-do that angle…not steep enough

  24. Greg Smith says:

    The last sentence …,but it sure is funny.- I did not see any humor in it at all. I would probably need some anger management classes if I was the one that fell like that!

  25. Greg Smith says:

    The last sentence …,but it sure is funny.- I did not see any humor in it at all. I would probably need some anger management classes if I was the one that fell like that!

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